Me:This is exact kind of stupidity couched in high sounding language the the holy scriptures warns us against ephesians.5:6
Unknown:Thomistic metaphysics provides the necessary clarity: God knows all things—past, present, future, and possible—by knowing Himself as the universal cause of all that is. His knowledge is not piecemeal or successive, but a single, eternal act.
Me:if God foreordains a universe inhabited by true free moral agents akin to himself then logically only the possible choices of such free moral agents can be foreknown since they have been granted the privilege of sharing with JEHOVAH in creating the future being true sons of God. If all of God's thoughts and acts are eternally foreordained then logically he himself is not free and therefore cannot confer freedom on any of his sons.
Unknown:All possible choices and contingencies are present to Him, but He causes no one to sin;
Me:No every choice has already been made by God in your behalf. To prevent evil all he would need to do is not create those making the wrong choices unless he himself has no choice.you don't get to have your cake and eat it too
Unknown:He merely permits it, respecting the genuine secondary causality and freedom of rational creatures. Predestination,
Me:If he foreknew your choice eternally prior to your existence his giving you the means to commit evil with that knowledge in mind makes him an accessory. If his acts are all foredetermined then he himself is not free and cannot be a source of freedom
Unknown:in Catholic doctrine, is always subordinated to the universal salvific will of God (1 Tim 2:4); no one is predestined to damnation apart from foreseen resistance to grace. God’s foreknowledge is thus the mirror of His eternal act: it is both absolute and, paradoxically to the temporal mind, perfectly compatible with the free cooperation or refusal of creatures.
Me:All determinism counters morality because morality presumes genuine choice in moral decisions an eternal determinism makes choice a mere illusion God is not good if determinism is a fact.
Unknown:The Watchtower position, in seeking to exonerate God from responsibility for evil, only empties God of His divinity. A God who learns, is surprised, or cannot see the future is not worthy of worship, nor can He guarantee the fulfillment of His promises. Classical theism—and this is the Catholic faith—holds that God’s knowledge and will are not opposed to creaturely freedom but the very condition for its possibility. If God were not outside of time, upholding all things by His word, there would be no free agents to choose at all. To reject this is not only to misunderstand Scripture but to surrender the very ground of hope in divine providence.
Me:Plain logic and common sense tell us that only a free Father can beget free sons. God being free has eternal foreordain a creation where free children are a possibility. We can increase our freedom by making wise choices or decrease it by making foolish choices. Determinism manifestly excludes genuine freedom.
Unknown:In conclusion, the Jehovah’s Witness doctrine of “selective foreknowledge” is a grave theological error. It arises from a false dilemma (that God’s knowing causes our doing), a defective anthropology (reducing freedom to mere unpredictability), and a deficient theology (denying God’s immutability and omniscience).
Me:JEHOVAH Creates the future and is free to create an undetermined future to deny this fact is to undermine his true majesty JEHOVAH is not afraid of the dark he is the creator and sovereign over the the dark just as he is of the light he knows the limits of the dark see Isaiah.45:7. It is christendom's theologians who are injuring JEHOVAH'S Majesty in effect reducing him to the status of a machine.
Unknown:Catholicism, in the line of Thomas Aquinas, teaches that God’s omniscience is both perfect and perfectly compatible with genuine, meaningful freedom.
Me:Omniscience is not the issue does JEHOVAH Have the might and wisdom to create a future that is undetermined in certain respects. Does he have the freedom change his mind. BTW moral choices aren't only choices rendered meaningless by determinism,the entire concept of choice and liberty is rendered moot.
Unknown:The mystery of divine providence is not a rational contradiction but the very source of our confidence and awe before the Creator, who knows us better than we know ourselves, and yet “calls us friends” (John 15:15), inviting our free response to His love
Me:Every attempt to rationalise the obvious contradiction between determinism and free will fails. Merely empty words, trust your divinely provided common sense and reject the the high sounding absurdities that the worldly wise are always attempting to pass off as subtleties.
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