Acts ch.7:15-27NIV"“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
24“Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat agains"
Galatians ch.5:22,23NIV"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."
Galatians ch.5:19-21NIV"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."
Ps. No Spamming allowed,I hope I'm not talking over anyone's head.
Your argument relies on a misinterpretation of Scripture and a fallacious application of the Donatist principle to claim that the Catholic Church is false based on the sins of some of its members. The argument draws heavily on Matthew 7:15–27, claiming that "bad fruit" in the actions of certain Catholics invalidates the entire Church. However, this interpretation overlooks critical aspects of the passage. The context is false prophets, not institutions: Jesus warns against individuals who claim to be PROPHETS and teach false doctrines and exploit others while appearing pious. He does not teach that an entire Church is invalidated by the sins of some of its members. "Fruit" refers to teachings as well as behavior: The metaphor of fruit encompasses both the moral lives of individuals and the soundness of their teachings. The Catholic Church has consistently upheld sound doctrine (e.g., the Trinity, the Incarnation, the authority of Scripture), despite the personal failings of some of its members. In the the parable of the wheat and the weeds (Matthew 13:24–30), Jesus explicitly teaches that both good and bad individuals will exist within the visible Church until the final judgment, when God Himself will separate the righteous from the wicked. This contradicts the idea that a church with sinners must be false.
ReplyDeleteYour argument selectively highlights the sins of individuals within the Catholic Church while ignoring the vast "good fruit" that it has produced over centuries. The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization in the world, providing hospitals, schools, orphanages, and relief services globally. This reflects the "fruit of the Spirit" (Galatians 5:22–23) more than isolated failings do. Catholicism has been a driving force behind Western civilization’s development, from preserving knowledge in monasteries to supporting scientific advances (e.g., the Big Bang theory was proposed by Georges Lemaître, a Catholic priest). The Church has produced countless saints who exemplified the fruits of the Spirit, including St. Francis of Assisi, St. Teresa of Calcutta, and St. John Paul II. These individuals embody the love, joy, peace, and self-control described in Galatians 5:22–23.
The claim that the Catholic Church must be false because of the sins of some of its members mirrors the Donatist heresy, which the Church condemned in the 4th century. Catholic theology teaches that the Church is the Body of Christ, guided by the Holy Spirit, but composed of fallible humans. Just as the sins of Judas did not invalidate the Apostolic College, the sins of some Catholics do not invalidate the Church. Scripture provides numerous examples of God working through flawed individuals, such as King David, who committed adultery and murder, and Peter, who denied Christ. These failings did not disqualify them from their God-given roles.
The reference to Galatians 5:19–23 misunderstands the distinction between individual behavior and institutional teaching. Paul condemns individual acts of the flesh, not institutions: Paul’s warning in Galatians addresses personal sin, not the legitimacy of entire churches. Judging an institution solely by the behavior of some of its members is both unbiblical and illogical. The Church calls for repentance: The Catholic Church consistently teaches against the works of the flesh listed in Galatians 5:19–21. It disciplines clergy and laity who fail to live up to its teachings, demonstrating its commitment to holiness.
Let me make something clear here there will be no spamming up of my channel o.k especially since I can't leave any comment on your channel
DeleteMy argument relies on results in the real world luke ch.7:35 makes it plain that that is how wisdom ,especially divine wisdom is to be appraised christendom has failed utterly in that regard perfection is hardly the issue the mass murder and gross immorality that has resulted from christendom's failure to properly understand and apply the Bible individually and collectively cannot simply be blamed on imperfection the way some annoying quirk like tardiness or gossiping can ,it is the kind of gross wrongdoing that those seeking truth ,should rightly expect the faithful church to absolutely not tolerate.
ReplyDeleteMany criminal organisations also provide social services that dies nor cleanse them of the guilt they accrue, none of the dead that have died owing to your failure to impress upon your flock the seriousness of JEHOVAH'S Moral law will be brought back your attempt to buy your way into paradise will fail and it's the fact that the church allows those living in open defiance if JEHOVAH'S Law that is the problem even allowing them to teach the Bible us clear that teachers who set up their own standard are to be removed.
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The straw clumsy exegesis of Bible prophesy is hardly to be compared with the plank of industrial scale mass fratricide,and openly gay clergy and lay teachers making excuses for defiance of JEHOVAH'S plainly stated law ,isn't it true that their are churches where those living in sin as it used to he called can go and receive sacrament, what ever procedure you may have for dealing with indiscipline us clearly not working, the church must kept pure that us not a negation of JEHOVAH'S mercy in ensures that those who catch themselves and return to JEHOVAH Have a church worth returning to,if the church is no different from the world why bother to come to the church in the first place,I come to JEHOVAH'S house because I know that my indwelling hunger for JEHOVAH'S Holiness will be filled there if it is no different from the world,then why waste the effort,the brother of those eagerly striving to renain mindful of our sacred oath is better than anything the world can offer. The fact despite the nonstop efforts if Satan's minions to turn us away even stooping to violence, most brothers remain mindful if their oath to the Lord JEHOVAH is evidence of his efficacy
ReplyDeleteYou accuse Christian denominations, likely the Catholic Church, of being complicit in large-scale violence or "mass fratricide." While individuals and political leaders have used religion to justify violence, it is incorrect to attribute all such acts to the Church itself. The Church has consistently condemned wars of aggression and violence against the innocent, as evidenced by papal encyclicals like Pacem in Terris by Pope John XXIII. JWs claim neutrality in politics and refuse military service. However, this does not make their stance inherently more "holy." Jesus taught, “Blessed are the peacemakers” (Matthew 5:9), but He did not forbid participation in just wars to defend the innocent. Catholic teaching allows for participation in just wars as outlined in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (2309). Early Christians only avoided military service primarily because the Roman army required participation in pagan rituals, not because serving in the military was inherently sinful.
DeleteThe Catholic Church upholds the teaching that marriage is between one man and one woman and calls all people, regardless of sexual orientation, to live chastely (CCC 2357-2359). Any deviation from this teaching by individuals does not represent the Church’s doctrine but rather individual failings. JWs claim moral purity but have their own controversies, including child abuse cases and cover-ups. These scandals, while not unique to any one group, show that no religious organization is immune to human sinfulness. The presence of sinners within the Church does not invalidate its truth but reflects the need for God’s grace.
Jesus Himself ministered to sinners, saying, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick” (Mark 2:17). The Church is not a community of the perfect but of those striving for holiness. The sacraments, particularly the Eucharist and Reconciliation, are means of healing and grace for sinners, not rewards for the righteous. The Church calls all its members to ongoing conversion, as holiness is a journey, not an immediate state. Excluding sinners from the Church would contradict the mission of Christ, who came to save the lost (Luke 19:10).
While individual Catholics and clergy may falter, the Church’s teachings remain countercultural. For example, its defense of the sanctity of life, opposition to abortion, and upholding of traditional marriage are clear examples of its moral distinctiveness. JWs criticize other religions for being "worldly," yet their organization has engaged in questionable practices, such as joining the United Nations as an NGO despite condemning political involvement. This reveals inconsistencies in their claim of separation from "the world."
High personal discipline or moral behavior does not automatically validate a group’s theological claims. Many religious groups, including Muslims, Buddhists, and others, demonstrate similar devotion without adhering to Jehovah's Witnesses’ theology. JW doctrines on issues like the 144,000, their denial of the deity of Christ, and their rejection of the Trinity conflict with the Bible and the teachings of the early Church. These theological errors undermine their claim to represent the true faith.
The Catholic Church practices discipline, including excommunication when necessary, but always with the aim of repentance and restoration. This reflects the biblical principle of correction in love (Galatians 6:1). JW practice of disfellowshipping (shunning) often isolates individuals entirely, even from family, which goes beyond biblical correction and can cause significant harm. Jesus taught reconciliation, not permanent ostracism (Matthew 18:15-17).
I am not singling out any particular church ,the catholic church all things considered is probably not the worst offender when it comes to political and ethnic conflict but it must accept community guilt because it has not made it clear to its members that slaughtering fellow humans is absolutely prohibited for Christians even if some politician or political party demands it,that is a fail if it had we would not have to witness the sad spectacle of supposed disciples of the prince of peace slaughtering each other on an unprecedented scale. Your churchmen have justified war including the colonial wars which many viewed as a necessary precursor to their missionary work.
ReplyDeleteWhy are you allowing pride flags to fly in your sanctuary,it doesn't matter what you say if advocates are allowed to speak from the pulpit and the non biblical view is promulgated that sexual immorality is a minor matter that sincere people can disagree about. Tolerance for immorality does immediately invalidate any claim of representing JEHOVAH, Only those who get bsptized are in line for the bible's sanction and we don't have to worry about eternal conscious torment which is far more fear inducing than being left alone by some hated minority, the disfellowshiped one is free to revel in the embrace of Satan's world why would that not be a fair trade if we are as transparently wicked as our enemies depict us. Disfellowshiping is a good thing by our enemies logic.
There is no correction, you live the same kind of unconsecrated life as the unbeliever and both you and them get the same reward,why embrace discipline then?
The Catholic Church unequivocally condemns unjust violence and murder, as taught in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC), which affirms the commandment, "Thou shalt not murder" (Exodus 20:13). However, the Church also acknowledges the complexity of human history and moral responsibility in matters such as war and self-defense. The Church has developed the doctrine of the just war, which strictly limits the conditions under which war can be considered morally permissible (CCC 2307–2317). This teaching aims to minimize violence and ensure that force is only used to protect the innocent or restore justice, never for aggression or conquest. While abuses have occurred in history, the Church has repeatedly condemned colonialism and the exploitation of indigenous peoples. For example, Pope Paul III issued the papal bull Sublimis Deus (1537), declaring that indigenous peoples were not to be enslaved and that they had rights to their freedom and property. The Church consistently calls Christians to follow the example of Christ, the Prince of Peace, in their personal and public lives. Any failure of individual Catholics to live up to this standard reflects human sin, not Church teaching. The Church does not shy away from admitting the failures of some of its members. St. John Paul II, for instance, made public apologies for historical wrongs committed by Catholics, including violence and wars. However, holding the entire Church responsible for the sins of individuals is a form of Donatist reasoning, which conflates the actions of flawed humans with the divine mission of the Church.
DeleteThe Catholic Church teaches that all people are made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:27) and deserve dignity and respect. However, this does not mean the Church endorses behavior contrary to its moral teachings. The Church upholds that sexual relations are reserved for marriage between one man and one woman and that all people are called to chastity according to their state in life (CCC 2357–2359). This teaching applies universally, regardless of orientation, and does not single out any group unfairly. If a pride flag is flown or an advocate speaks in a sanctuary promoting views contrary to Church teaching, it would be a violation of Catholic doctrine. However, such instances do not reflect official Church teaching but the actions of individuals or parishes acting against the Magisterium. The Church distinguishes between loving sinners and tolerating sin. True love seeks the good of the other, which includes guiding people toward God’s truth. The Church does not endorse sin but calls all people to repentance and holiness.
The Church does not "tolerate" immorality. Instead, the Church condemns sin but simultaneously offers sinners the chance for repentance and redemption through the sacraments, especially Confession. Jesus Himself ministered to sinners, calling them to “go and sin no more” (John 8:11). The Church follows this example by welcoming all while calling them to conversion. The Church also practices forms of discipline for grave public sin, such as excommunication. However, the goal is always the sinner’s repentance, not permanent exclusion from the community.
Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practice of disfellowshipping is starkly different from Catholic discipline. The Church disciplines with love, aiming for reconciliation. Even in cases of excommunication, individuals are always invited to return to the sacraments after repentance. In Catholicism, the emphasis is on mercy, as God desires the salvation of all (1 Timothy 2:4). Cutting someone off entirely risks ignoring the command to love your neighbor and forgive “seventy times seven” (Matthew 18:22). Jesus ate with sinners and reached out to the lost, even when they were in sin (Luke 19:10). The Church mirrors this by guiding sinners back to Christ rather than isolating them entirely.
DeleteAll Catholics are called to holiness, as stated in Vatican II’s Lumen Gentium. The sacraments, prayer, and works of mercy are avenues through which Catholics grow in sanctity. Catholic teaching rejects the notion of "cheap grace" or automatic salvation. Salvation requires faith, repentance, and ongoing cooperation with God’s grace (James 2:14-26). The Church encourages frequent self-examination and the sacrament of Confession to ensure a life aligned with God’s will. Discipline in the Church, such as penance or spiritual direction, is not a punishment but a means of growth. Unlike Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Catholic Church does not see discipline as exclusionary but as a path to deeper union with Christ.
In conclusion, the Catholic Church’s mission is to lead people to Christ through the truth of the Gospel, not to impose human ideology or tolerate immorality. Historical failings of individuals do not undermine the Church’s divine mission or teaching authority. The Church’s approach is one of mercy, truth, and reconciliation, guided by Christ’s example. It calls all people to holiness, offers forgiveness to the repentant, and maintains fidelity to the teachings handed down by Christ and the Apostles.
Don't vow if you don't intend to pay, the sanction is there to keep people out not to keep anyone in the church is not some kind of social club,it is supposed to be a token of the new world to come, a union of those transformed by an actual encounter with the risen Christ, one that gives them a strong enough faith to face the same kind of death our Lord faced,if this is not true of you,you are not ready for baptism, the sanction is there to make the deadly seriousness of your vow clear,better to not vow than vow falsely. If the sanction is nothing but a bluff then it can't serve its purpose if conveying solemnity to ones vow.
ReplyDeleteThis argument seems to suggest that the sanctions imposed by certain religious organizations for failing to meet their standards of membership are necessary and justified because they ensure the seriousness of a person’s commitment to their faith. However, when this reasoning is applied in the context of Jehovah's Witnesses and their practices, it raises several critical theological and ethical concerns that need to be addressed.
DeleteThe claim implies that sanctions are necessary to keep individuals committed to their vows. While it is true that making solemn vows, especially in matters of faith, should not be taken lightly, the way sanctions are implemented in certain religious systems—particularly among Jehovah’s Witnesses—raises questions about the nature of such practices. Jesus taught that our “yes” should mean yes, and our “no” should mean no (Matthew 5:37), emphasizing personal integrity without the need for extreme measures. While vows are important, the use of sanctions to enforce them resembles coercion rather than genuine discipleship. Sanctions like disfellowshipping (excommunication) among Jehovah's Witnesses often result in cutting off all association, including from family and close friends. This practice can cause immense psychological and emotional harm, which contradicts the biblical command to show love, even to those who falter (Galatians 6:1).
Your argument also suggests that baptism must be reserved only for those who demonstrate a strong enough faith to endure persecution or martyrdom, similar to Christ’s suffering. This view misrepresents the biblical purpose of baptism. Baptism is not a reward for spiritual perfection but an initiation into the life of Christ and His Church. It is an acknowledgment of faith and a beginning, not an endpoint. Acts 2:38 shows that baptism is tied to repentance and the reception of the Holy Spirit, not personal perfection. In the New Testament, individuals who came to faith were baptized promptly (Acts 8:36-38; Acts 16:31-33). There was no extensive waiting period or examination of their readiness to face martyrdom. The Ethiopian eunuch, for example, was baptized immediately after hearing and accepting the Gospel.
The argument positions the Church as an exclusive group of only the “transformed,” suggesting that anyone not meeting a high threshold of faith should be excluded. This contradicts the inclusive and restorative mission of Christ. The Church is a hospital for sinners: Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick” (Mark 2:17). The Church is a place for spiritual healing and growth, not an exclusive club for the spiritually elite. The idea that sanctions are necessary to test someone's seriousness undermines the role of grace in the Christian life. Salvation and spiritual transformation are works of God, not something that can be coerced or measured by human institutions (Ephesians 2:8-9).
How could I put faith in a christ who gives no evidence of an ability to bring about the transformation he promised,that kind of nominal ineffectual Christianity you are speaking of is not the Christianity of the bible church is supposed to provided clear evidence of Christ's resurrection from the dead if it is composed of untransformed individuals of if there is no meaningful difference between the average Christian and the average unbeliever this would only provide an opportunity for the enemies of christ to mock him,that his suffering and death was to no purpose and that no evidence of his resurrection is present among those who are supposed to provide such evidence, before their can be any mercy and grace their must first be repentance Matthew ch.4:17NIV"From that time on Jesus began to preach, “REPENT, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”"
DeleteRemember Eli the high priest ineffectually rebuke his sons and was content to go no further that was not good enough for JEHOVAH, He considered Eli's failure to remove these corrupt priest as a slap in the face,here is JEHOVAH'S Word against the blackness of Eli: 1Samuel ch.2:27-30NIV"Now a man of God came to Eli and said to him, “This is what the LORD says: ‘Did I not clearly reveal myself to your ancestor’s family when they were in Egypt under Pharaoh? 28I chose your ancestor out of all the tribes of Israel to be my priest, to go up to my altar, to burn incense, and to wear an ephod in my presence. I also gave your ancestor’s family all the food offerings presented by the Israelites. 29Why do you e scorn my sacrifice and offering that I prescribed for my dwelling? Why do you honor your sons more than me by fattening yourselves on the choice parts of every offering made by my people Israel?’
ReplyDelete30“Therefore the LORD, the God of Israel, declares: ‘I promised that members of your family would minister before me forever.’ But now the LORD declares: ‘Far be it from me! Those who honor me I will honor, but those who despise me will be disdained."
Remove the plank from your own eye first nincsnevem,there is no excuse for tolerating corruption at any level but especially not among those who are supposedly teachers of JEHOVAH'S Law.
The story of Eli and his sons in 1 Samuel 2:27-30 is a vivid account of God's judgment on spiritual leaders who fail to uphold His laws. While the Catholic Church acknowledges the necessity of discipline within its ranks, it rejects the notion that God’s judgment on Eli applies universally to every failure by a religious leader. The Catholic Church has mechanisms for addressing corruption and sin among clergy, such as excommunication, laicization, and other canonical penalties. For instance, the Code of Canon Law outlines procedures to discipline clergy who deviate from Church teaching or commit grave sins (Canon 1395). Historical examples, such as the Council of Trent, show the Church's efforts to reform itself and address corruption. While God condemned Eli for his negligence, this does not mean that the Church, as the Body of Christ, loses its legitimacy due to the sins of its members. Christ Himself acknowledged that His Church would contain both wheat and tares until the final judgment (Matthew 13:24-30). The presence of sinners within the Church reflects human freedom and the ongoing need for repentance, not a failure of Christ's transformative power. The accusation that corruption within the Church invalidates its mission echoes the Donatist heresy, which the Church condemned in the 4th century. Donatists claimed that the validity of sacraments depended on the moral purity of the minister. The Church teaches that Christ, not the personal holiness of clergy, is the source of grace in the sacraments. Thus, the Church's mission is not nullified by the sins of some of its members.
ReplyDeleteYou claim that the presence of “untransformed individuals” within the Church undermines Christ’s promises and gives His enemies cause to mock Him. However, this perspective misunderstands the nature of transformation in the Christian life and the Church's role. Transformation in Christ is not an instantaneous process but a lifelong journey of sanctification. St. Paul himself acknowledged the ongoing struggle with sin: “For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing” (Romans 7:19). The Church provides the means of grace—such as the sacraments, Scripture, and prayer—to aid believers in this journey, but human frailty remains. Jesus declared that He came “not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance” (Luke 5:32). The Church is a spiritual hospital where sinners seek healing through God’s grace. The presence of sin within the Church is not evidence of Christ’s failure but of humanity’s ongoing need for redemption. While individual failures exist, the Church has also produced countless saints who demonstrate the transformative power of Christ. Figures like St. Francis of Assisi, St. Teresa of Ávila, and St. John Paul II provide clear evidence of lives radically changed by Christ. These saints, along with countless faithful Catholics, embody the fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23).
The Catholic Church understands itself as a "corpus permixtum" (a mixed body), a concept rooted in Jesus' parable of the wheat and the tares (Matthew 13:24-30). This means that the Church, as a visible community, is composed of both saints and sinners—those truly faithful to Christ and those who may falter or fail. The Church acknowledges human weakness while maintaining that it is sustained by divine grace and guided by the Holy Spirit. The holiness of the Church comes not from the moral perfection of its members but from its foundation in Christ, who sanctifies it through the sacraments and His presence. This view contrasts with sectarian ideas that demand a "pure" community, as the Church recognizes that final judgment belongs to God alone, not to human efforts to separate the righteous from the unrighteous in this life.
I am not talking about people who are struggling I am talking about those who have defected to the enemy and are now waging war against righteousness. Your comment is not applicable
DeleteYou emphasize repentance as a prerequisite for mercy and grace, citing Matthew 4:17. This is a valid point but does not negate the Catholic Church’s emphasis on repentance and the transformative power of grace. The Catholic Church continually calls its members to repentance through the sacraments, particularly Confession (Reconciliation). Jesus’ call to “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matthew 4:17) is echoed in the Church’s liturgy, teaching, and pastoral care. The Church teaches that God’s mercy and justice are not in opposition. While repentance is necessary, mercy is always available to those who seek it sincerely. The parable of the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32) illustrates that God welcomes sinners who return to Him, even after grievous offenses. While the Church practices discipline, it avoids the harshness of shunning or permanent ostracism, which risks violating Christ’s command to forgive “seventy times seven” (Matthew 18:22). Even excommunicated individuals are always invited to repent and return to full communion with the Church.
ReplyDeleteYou imply that the Catholic Church “tolerates” sin while Jehovah’s Witnesses enforce stricter standards. However, several aspects of JW theology and practice merit critique. Jehovah’s Witnesses practice disfellowshipping, which often results in total isolation of individuals, even from family members. This goes beyond biblical correction (Matthew 18:15-17) and violates the command to honor one’s parents (Exodus 20:12). Catholic discipline, in contrast, seeks repentance and restoration, not permanent exclusion. Jehovah’s Witnesses deny core Christian doctrines, such as the deity of Christ. These denials contradict Scripture (e.g., John 1:1, Matthew 28:19) and the teachings of the early Church, as evidenced by the Nicene Creed. The Watchtower Society’s claim to be the true faith is undermined by its lack of historical continuity with the apostolic Church. In contrast, the Catholic Church traces its origins directly to Christ and the Apostles (Matthew 16:18, Acts 2:42).
You accuse me of failing to “remove the plank from your own eye” (Matthew 7:5). However, this accusation applies equally to the Jehovah’s Witness organization, which has faced its own scandals and controversies, including child abuse cases and doctrinal changes as well. Allegations of mishandling child abuse cases have plagued the Watchtower Society. These failures reveal that no organization, including Jehovah’s Witnesses, is immune to human sinfulness. The Watchtower Society has repeatedly altered its teachings, raising questions about its claim to be God’s sole channel of truth. For example, its shifting interpretation of the “generation” mentioned in Matthew 24:34 has led to confusion and disillusionment among its members. The Catholic Church acknowledges its human failings while remaining steadfast in its divine mission. As St. Paul wrote, “We have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us” (2 Corinthians 4:7).
In conclusion, the Catholic Church does not deny the need for repentance or discipline but balances these with mercy, grace, and a commitment to the truth of the Gospel. The sins of individuals, whether Catholic or Jehovah’s Witness, do not invalidate the truth of Christ’s message. The Church remains the “pillar and foundation of the truth” (1 Timothy 3:15), offering God’s grace to all who seek it. Your interlocutor’s arguments misunderstand the nature of the Church, the process of sanctification, and the balance between justice and mercy that defines authentic Christianity.
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