The nineteenth installment in my responses to Mr.Nevem
Nincsnevem5:49 AM
This is really easy to answer: according to his human nature, Jesus is a Messianic King, according to his human nature he is the heir to David's throne, and of course Jesus' humanity is not God, not YHWH. Jesus' human and divine natures are distinct but inseparable.
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aservantofJehovah6:31 AM
"This is really easy to answer: according to his human nature, Jesus is a Messianic King, according to his human nature he is the heir to David's throne, and of course Jesus' humanity is not God, not YHWH. Jesus' human and divine natures are distinct but inseparable.,"
Here is the thing Mr.nevem the verse makes no mention of a nature but of a person so if this person( not nature) is equal to his Father is not the most high or he is his own Father stop putting words in the prophet's mouth
Also there is a small matter of the Holy Spirit who is not the Father of Jesus according to the Nicene creed and not incarnated if he is equal to the Father then obviously the Father of Jesus is not the most high.
So your fudge fails the person (not the nature) of the Father is greater than the person of the Son and if the spirit is a person greater than the person of the spirit.
Luke ch.1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, "
A similar problem exists with Matthew ch.24:36
Matthew ch.24:36KJV"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my FATHER ONLY. "
Why would the unincarnated Spirit not know the day or hour
And if you could just put the smug away for a minute(because it is clearly impeding your judgment) you will see that the question was mainly about the identity of the most high because, by definition the most high can have no equals so who is this unequalled Father of Jesus.
So it really doesn't matter whether the human Jesus was less than his father if there is a divine Jesus that is equal to his Father his Father is not the MOST HIGH as per the dictionary definition of that term
John ch.17:3NIV"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, THE only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. "
ReplyDeleteThe father is a God in his own right it falsifies the idea that the Father is a distinct person But not a distinct God. This category of God is qualified as true in the sense of original and underived ,every other God and Lord in a positive sense derives his Godhood and Lordship from this original and underived God and Lord.
Deuteronomy ch.10:17NIV"17For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes."
The rulers of the ancient Hebrew Nation are called Gods by both JEHOVAH and his Son.
Psalms ch 82:1-6 and John 10:34 but theirs was a derived Godhood.
In the God and Father of Jesus singlehandedly exhausts the category of supreme underived God
Luke ch.1:32NIV"He will be great and will be called the Son of the MOST HIGH. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,"
Obviously the MOST HIGH can have no equals